is the use of these ballistic missiles, and they are scuds, but the other kinds of missiles are using cluster bombs reported in the "new york times" today so does this suggest they are getting desperate? >>guest: really, i like that skepticism you had earlier on this package. yes, it does, but it doesn't mean that collapse is imminent. this is a horrible weapon to use in this battle. the scuds have an inaccuracy of several hundred meters so that means you combine that with a cluster of ammunition or another warhead and you will be killing a lost innocent people and that is sort of the obvious intent of the weapons. there is no two ways around it. humanitarian terms and military terms it is catastrophic and devastating. on the other hand, does it really mean that assad is about to lose? i am not so sure. mainly he is targeting whole populations he things have turned against him. he realized this is a fight to the bitter end for survival. this could look a lot like the war in bosnia where this kind of horrific violence continues for two or three years. >>gregg: it took a while before bi